We continue with your questions and our answers and in this episode the focus is on one of the best superfoods you can take. It’s all about Shilajit.
- Would you go into more detail about the health benefits of shilajit, and positive effects on aging?
- How much Shilajit should be consumed & any age restrictions is there to consume same
- Hi- I have a couple of questions. I would like to transfer the pure Shilajit Pitch to a glass jar for easier use…clear glass or amber glass?
- After researching Shilajit, I’m finding many saying that there is no quality powdered Shilajit, the resin is considered far better. Your take on this, would be appreciated. Thanks
- What to do if you are skeptical to herbs and don’t feel the effects of the herbs? Like Tongkat Ali and Shilajit.
Also be sure to check out the earlier podcast with Ayurvedic Dr. Jay that we reference a couple times.
Click the link below to access the complete transcript.[spoiler]
The content found on the Vital Way podcast in Superman Herbs is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice, for the diagnosis or treatment of a health condition or as a substitute for medical counseling. Please review any information with your qualified healthcare provider before making any decisions concerning your health. You assume all risk for use, misuse or disuse of this information.
Logan: Hey guys, it’s Logan Christopher along with my brother Cloud for the Vital Way podcast. On the left side, we have the new Ask Me area and a lot of questions on shilajit. So we figured we’d dive into detail on shilajit, answer all those questions and talk more about benefits and everything. We’re probably recapping some of the information that we did on the podcast with Dr. Jay. I highly recommend you go check that out. That was Episode 10 and of course on SupermanHerbs.com you can find all of our podcast. Just click on the little tab that’s there and you’ll be able to get all that information. In addition to the podcast, we also have the transcripts available. Sometimes those take a little while, a few days after the podcast was live just because it takes time to do that process but that’s there so you can a little more quickly access the information. So Cloud, did you take your Shilajit today?
Cloud: Oh yeah. I’ve already taken 300-400 mg of the shilajit powder in my coffee like I like to do. Definitely every single day, multiple times a day.
Logan: Ever since we did that interview with Dr. Jay that has been something I have taken without fail every first thing in the morning, along with drinking some water.
Cloud: Yeah, and I really can’t wait till we get this resin to start trying it out. That stuff is so incredible when we tried it with Dr. Jay. I can’t wait for our customers, for everyone to get to try it.
Logan: Yeah, Dr. Jay made us some nice saffron tea along with some of the shilajit resin. It was very tasty. I guess we’ll launch into the first questions that has to do with that, this question, “After researching Shilajit, I’m finding many saying that there’s no quality powdered shilajit. The resin is considered far better. Your take on this would be appreciated.” What do you think, Cloud?
Cloud: Well, I think it depends on your source. Because what I’ve seen, a lot of people tell me that the resin’s the only real shilajit. Yeah, I believe it’s a less processed version but some people say powdered shilajit cannot exist. If it does, it’s fake. Well how do you explain anybody receiving any benefits from it if it’s fake? If they are deriving benefits from it on a daily basis, what’s that about that? What I’ve noticed a lot of times these people that put up the articles that say shilajit powder is bad and this and that, they are usually affiliates or someone trying to sell shilajit resin. So I think it all depends on the source. Is it possible to have powdered shilajit? Yeah, I think it is.
Logan: Obviously, it is. I mean we wouldn’t be selling it if it wasn’t good quality stuff. Here’s the thing. Assuming you have a good quality source, let’s say that, the resin is better than the powder because it is a less refined version. Usually they even start with the a little higher quality material just because I guess that the rocks with the resin that’s just minimally filtered and then you have a usable product with the shilajit rocks that’s sort of the starting material. For the shilajit powder, you need to do a little bit more of a process in order to make that consumable by a human being. So it takes a little bit of a different process but assuming you have both good qualities then yes, the resin is better than the powder. But that doesn’t mean powder does bad. There are a lot of good quality powders out there.
Cloud: One way to look at it, I think, and with what Dr. Jay told us in his interview about the two different ways, the resin and the powder is created, because they take the shilajit rocks that they find and they put them in water to get to the slurry component of it before they do anything else. Well basically, I see it as the resin does that naturally by itself with nature. Basically, it ends up in the waterways, the water-logged areas and the resin becomes this slurry in nature whereas the rocks are rocks so they’re not sitting in water because they’re at lower elevation so once human get it, then they have to do that part of it. Like you were saying, it’s slightly more processed but you could look at the resin as it’s processed through nature and the powder is just processed by man.
Logan: Yeah. So the thing is, once again assuming you have good quality, you can take a lot less of the resin to get the same sort of benefit. With the powder, it’s just a bit of a weaker form, I guess you can say that, so you just need a little bit more to get the same sort of benefit. So once again, it doesn’t mean that that’s that and like Cloud was saying, I think those people that are saying that there’s no such thing as a good powdered shilajit are either purposefully or unintentionally lying to you because they don’t really understand the process going behind it and they’re just trying to sell some sort of resin. But being that said, resin typically is going to be a better quality product.
So let’s move onto the next question and this one is sort of a broad one. “Will you go into more detail about the health benefits of shilajit and its positive effects on aging?”
Cloud: Positive effects from aging, well supposedly shilajit has a bunch of electrons to give away and the free radicals are going through you all the time stealing your electrons which makes you age. You take shilajit and you have all these electrons to give away so all those free radicals aren’t stealing your electrons. That kind of helps with anti-aging. Shilajit, it’s hard to go into the health benefits of it because there are so many associated with the shilajit. Shilajit just tends to make everything better for you.
Logan: There are a few different ways that we could look at this. One is just like historically, it was used as a cure-all. We tend to not use that term anymore because in our sort of the Western scientific perspective, you have the one drug for one symptom and that’s how things are supposed to work, which obviously is not quite the whole truth or even really close to it. So shilajit as a substance was historically used as a cure-all so any sort of issue that you have—Dr. Jay was saying as a destroyer of weakness, it basically goes into your body and it doesn’t like weakness so it just removes it from your body. It destroys it. It gets rid of it. That’s why it had this reputation as a cure-all.
Now we’re not saying that you take shilajit and it’s going to cure anything you have. That’s not what we’re saying here. If you use it in the right way, it can certainly help with a lot of issues. You can use it in combination with other protocols, with other herbs in order to work with various sorts of diseases but the basic idea is it’s just that. It’s the destroyer of weakness so it’s going to help to remove anything that’s weak from your body.
Cloud: Yeah and maybe with shilajit being a nutritional potentiator, meaning that your body can derive more nutrition out of what you ingest when you’re taking shilajit also, maybe its cure-all effect is just that your body got better nutrition with the foods you ate and that helped you heal.
Logan: Well, there’s that and also the high level of minerals that are in shilajit. Different people say different numbers like 82 to 85 to 87, somewhere in there. Basically, it has all the minerals that the body needs. Here’s the thing about minerals. We hear about certain ones in certain places like the importance of zinc, we’ve definitely talked about that before or say selenium and its very good effects. 82 to 85 minerals, how many minerals can the average make? Maybe 23 of them, if that. So we don’t even understand everything that these minerals do. I was just reading this book and they were talking about all the benefits of yttrium. I’m not even sure that’s the right way to pronounce it. They’re saying that this is like a major mineral and most people haven’t even heard of that. I haven’t heard of it to the point I don’t know how to pronounce it. It’s a heat mineral that has tons of benefits.
Each one of these mineral, even though you may only need tiny amounts of them, shilajit is going to be the supplier of that. Your body uses minerals for all sorts of enzymatic things, all sorts of different things and if those minerals aren’t there then something begins to break down. It’s having to use other minerals, including like toxic ones each case. For instance with zinc if you don’t have that, sometimes the heavy metals are getting put into those sort of areas where it’s used. So anytime you don’t have the right amount of minerals, your health is starting to decline. If you have tons of minerals then your body is going to be much better at doing every single one of its processes of which thousands are happening every single second. I’d say that’s one of the big benefits of shilajit and how it can help with anti-aging.
Cloud: Yes, the mineralization of the body I think is very important, definitely since there are studies from 40 to 50 years ago that talk about how depleted our soil was back then, let alone now. I like how you were like 80 to 85, how come we don’t know how many minerals there are? Different people, huh.
Logan: Well, they have different amounts. It definitely has good amounts of some of the major minerals like a fairly high amount of bioavailable calcium but I really think a lot of the benefits we’re seeking comes from those very trace minerals that we really need and if we don’t have those, like I said, it’s the beginning of problems. They may not happen right away but over the long term that’s where things are going to happen. I try to think about every sort of hormone in your body. We’re talking things like blood sugar, cardiovascular health, everything depends on minerals. So if you don’t have sufficient minerals then things begin to breakdown.
Cloud: And lately, my wife has been doing a lot of gardening. We’ll see a plant do well in the beginning, it will start to wilt a little and she’ll put the tiniest amount of the shilajit powder in the water with it and the next day, it goes crazy. It comes back to life and new growth all of a sudden and we’re absolutely amazed watching these plants, how well they thrive with the tiniest bit of the shilajit powder in them, in their food.
Logan: Because the plants need minerals just as much as we do. Yeah, that makes sense. That’s the thing. If you’re growing actually plants that you’re going to be eating then you put minerals in the soils. Putting shilajit would be one form to resolve these different things, from using volcanic minerals or ocean water, things that supply all these minerals. Then the food is going to be much healthier because it’s up taking all those minerals and then it’s going to be available to you when you eat that food.
In addition to that, a lot of these things give the plant its natural defense mechanisms so you don’t need things like pesticides and fungicides because your plant can protect itself rather than when you have depleted soil. Our whole thing with soil is NPK, nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium. Those are the only three minerals that were added to soil and this is still a large thing. Forget the other 80, somewhat 100, whatever we have, minerals that are actually needed for health of those plants and then in turn for us. So yeah, that makes total sense, what you’re saying there.
Cloud: Oh yeah. What you said about the plants defense, a few years ago when we had a garden at our house and I used to throw shilajit, let’s say if I’d rinse out my drink cup that had herbs I would water the plants with the residue herb water and those plants almost never suffered from pests like you’re saying. I never realized that maybe the herbs do help defend themselves from pests.
Logan: I’ve also heard that you can generally grow plants in places where they don’t necessarily grow. If they have much more rich soils as well, like growing oranges up in Northern US is based on this. I haven’t seen that myself but think about that. If it has the food supply, same thing between plants and human or any sort of animals right, if it has the adequate food supply, it’s going to be helping with health. That’s going to be defense from invaders. In plants, this may be bugs. For us, it’s viruses and bacteria that can be problematic. You have better defense from all that and you’re more adaptable basically. That’s the whole idea behind the adaptogen. Your body is able to handle any sort of stress. Let’s say cold environment, hot environment, lack of water, that’s sort of thing, your body is just better able to do it.
There is one other thing that I think will help deliver this idea of why shilajit is so useful. If you look at herbal alchemy, the most potent medicines are the mineral substances, actually working with gold, silver. You can’t just eat gold. You can’t just eat silver. They need to process in a certain way in order to be available to the human body. Ayurveda has practices that work with these minerals. In Western alchemy, hermetic tradition, those are there as well.
These are the more potent medicines than even the plants because the mineral kingdom is just something different from the plant world and animal kingdom and shilajit is sort of in that mineral kingdom. One of the reasons I like to think of it as why it’s so beneficial is because it’s part of that mineral kingdom in a way that’s pretty easily gotten to by most people versus trying to do alchemical stuff. Alchemy is the natural processes sort of done in a certain sped-off way in order to get through it. But with shilajit, the alchemy is being done by nature.
Cloud: So is alchemy when the plants turn inorganic minerals from the soil to organic minerals that we can ingest in our body?
Logan: You could call that alchemy if you want it but yeah, that is just their biological process of doing that. That’s why we eat plants versus eating dirt. There is some benefit. We can talk about soil-based organisms and some of the stuff in dirt might be useful but generally no, we can’t just eat rocks and derive nutrition from them. It needs to be made into some sort of organic manner.
Cloud: Right. Well I’ve read this and I don’t know how true it is but fulvic acid and humic acid, what it allowed the plants to do was convert those inorganic minerals to organic. So when we ingest them, our body can use them readily.
Logan: So I think that gives some of the ideas about how the shilajit can help with aging and its general health benefit. Let’s move on to the next question. This is kind of a two-bar question. “How much shilajit should be consumed and are there any age restrictions in doing that?” What do you think, Cloud?
Cloud: Well, I’d like to go with Dr. Jay’s recommendation as he is an expert. For the new powdered shilajit, I haven’t gone over a gram a day. I usually do 100 to 200 mg at a time and I do that till it adds up to 1 gram a day.
Logan: So do you have to be measuring this out? Well, a gram is just over half a teaspoon.
Cloud: Well, I’m using the tongkat spoon, which is approximately 100 mg. So like I said, I’ll do three or four in my coffee and then at lunch I may do two more. I may do two more later in the day and two more in the evening. It all depends but I bet you most days I don’t even reach a whole gram. I just like to do it whenever I ingest food for the potentiation effect. It’s kind of what I’m experimenting with right now. Instead of consuming it in one large dose, break it up when I do have food.
Logan: I’m going for the other direction. I’m just doing my one shilajit dose in the morning, first thing in the morning as I mentioned and taking just a little over half a teaspoon. I don’t quite measure it out. I’m not exact like that so it’s probably right around that one gram amount and just taking that down. Then it’s good for the day. I take my other herbs a little bit later on.
Cloud: And age restrictions, I would say that it’s not going to be bad for kids, in my opinion, but do you need to give it to them? Probably not. Maybe if we make smoothies at my house, we throw it in there and we give some to my daughter, fine, she has it then. But we’re not giving her a gram of it a day straight. She may get some incorporated in food.
Now going the other way, do I think there’s an age limit? Absolutely not. There is that old saying that if you have shilajit one time in your life, you’re better off because if it does re-electrify every cell in your body, then you are going to be better off after that one time once all those cells try and turn back on. So I definitely think that shilajit is something beneficial for older people. Definitely.
Logan: I’d say young or old, if we go back to the idea of minerals, is there a point in your life when you don’t need minerals? We’ll probably talk to Dr. Jay to confirm this but I think this would even be a good one for pregnant women, for children as well. Like I was saying, you don’t need to do that one gram a day. That’s an adult dose so you don’t need to do that. But small amounts of it is just going to help. This isn’t such a powerful thing in any one direction. It’s just going to put forth health throughout time. But this would be a great one to use regardless of where you’re at in life.
Cloud: Definitely. But if you’re pregnant, you might want to watch. It may speed up your metabolism. My wife did not like to take it when she was pregnant. But I think maybe tiny, tiny bits to make sure you get all the minerals. And the other thing, like I said, if you put it in plants you’d been gardening and then the plants uptake it and your kids eat that, that’s even better.
Logan: Yes, absolutely. Just as far as how much you should take, like I said probably when this is released will be a little bit of time from having our new resin available. With that, you only need 100 mg a day, a very small dose of this stuff that we have available can take all those benefits.
This is something that really we’ve talked sort of at length about cycling different herbs. What should you take regularly? What you should not? Shilajit is one that you take every for the rest of your life. An idea in Ayurveda that is often quoted with shilajit is if you take it every day for 12 years, it will add an extra 12 years to your life. Now of course that’s somewhat legendary but it gives you the idea of first of all, what shilajit can do for you and secondly, how you should be taking shilajit. It’s really going to be best off when taken regularly over time.
Cloud: For the long term.
Logan: Yeah, it’s going to have more of that building effect. Think about those minerals once again. It’s not like you’ll take a whole bunch of minerals one day then you’re good for the rest. Sure, that’s going to help but if you can have the supply with shilajit can give you every single day just a little bit, then your body is going to be able to run that much better.
Cloud: Right. I definitely remember when we had three doses of the resin on that one day. I was bouncing off the walls for hours and hours. I stayed up way past when I thought I’d be able to. This stuff is crazy to have. Just three, we’re talking smaller than the pea-sized ones, 100 mg, and yeah, the resin is crazy.
Logan: I forgot to mention this, talking about benefits. One of the other ways we can look at it is the shilajit is going in and working on our DNA. It actually helps correct and sort of normalize protein synthesis, which those minerals are certainly helping with. Your body is creating all sorts of proteins, including these enzymes and whatnot. Shilajit just helps makes that process work better, the DNA replicating and RNA, a whole bunch of other processes. The shilajit is really working on that cellular level with the reproduction of different things. The more that those are working properly, the less you have things going askew and then that turning into disease in the long term. So our next question here, “I would like to transfer the pure shilajit pitch to a glass jar for easier use. Clear glass or amber glass?”
This is an interesting question because as we’re working on getting the new shilajit resin to you where it’s going to be coming in little glass jar, we’re looking at the different colors. The idea behind whether to use clear glass or an amber glass, the idea is with a lot of different things. Light is going to photo-degrade the substance. This is why tinctures are put into not clear glasses, generally amber glass. If you want to get even better than that there’s that black Miron glass which keeps all light out from the object whereas amber just reflects most of it. It’s the same with cobalt, as our pine pollen tinctures come in right now.
So with shilajit, here’s the interesting thing. If it’s a mineral substance and it’s said to be immortal, is it going to photo-degrade? I would say probably not. However, just be cautious, there are not going to be any drawbacks from putting it into an amber glass. But I really don’t think the light is going affect the shilajit so much like it would with other herbs. What do you think, Cloud?
Cloud: Well one, the Miron glass does let in light, ultraviolet and red light spectrum, which are good for whatever is in there. No, I do not think it matters. Again, for Dr. Jay, this is an immortal substance. So is light going to be able to kill it? Well according to him, absolutely not. It’s been around for thousands of years. I definitely don’t think shilajit has any problems with degradation. The stuff we had from Dr. Jay was a couple of years old actually. He’d been using the same samples for years. Same thing with the powder. I had powder form him that was two-years old and I can definitely feel it. So I don’t think you necessarily need to protect shilajit as much as some of the other things, other herbs. I like the blue cobalt color. It’s pretty so whatever. We’ll go for that.
Logan: Let’s just mention that that’s something that came up recently regarding the other herbs. The more you can keep these herbs away from light and away from open air, generally the longer they’re going to last. One thing we noticed with the tongkat ali is if it alters sizes where it’s turning into more like little rocks rather than just a fine powder, at that point—I started to notice this; I asked around other people who noticed this—it didn’t same to have the same sort of effect, the same sort of kick from it. It seemed to be losing a bit of its potency just from the oxygen that got to it and probably light as well.
So with your herbs, you’ll want to keep them in a sealed container, whether that’s the bags or you put them in something else. With the tongkat, I think we’re going to start actually throwing the oxygen absorbers in there as well just to make sure that it stays quite potent. But you have keep things sealed. Keep them in like a dark cabinet or drawer, whatever you’re doing. You could keep them in the refrigerator. That should be fine for most things but I wouldn’t say that it’s necessary to do so. Just keep them away from light and air and you should be good to go.
Cloud: Yeah, the reason we have our products in an inner bag is so there’s less air to be around the herbs. The reason there’s the black foil bag is so light cannot get in. So I definitely recommend you either to keep it in that bag sealed up or if you do transfer it, take care of your stuff. Either get good glass containers or put it in an area where light isn’t going to get to it that much. Definitely, make sure that it’s sealed.
Logan: So this final question we have here is a little bit different. I thought it was just interesting. It mentions shilajit so I thought I’d throw it in here. “What to do if you are skeptical to herbs and don’t feel the effects of the herbs like tongkat ali and shilajit?” Why I found this question interesting was it sounds like this guy was skeptical before he even began to take the herb.
Now there’s nothing wrong with being skeptical and most people have heard of the placebo effect when you take an inert substance and they get some benefit from it. The most dramatic case in my opinion of these, of which there are quite a few, was when they were testing out knee surgeries. They wanted to find whether the debridement or lavage, which are two different forms of knee surgeries, were more effective. In doing these, they placebo-controlled it. This means they had some people that got the debridement, they had some people that got the lavage and they had some people that were prepped for surgery and everything, the doctor came, made a small incision in the knee but did no actual operation.
Then they went about it and looked at the results with these different people. The people that got the placebo knee surgery feel just as well as people that got the actual surgery. So the placebo effect is very strong, even with western pharmaceuticals. Everything is tested against the placebo and everything interesting has been coming to life as the placebo effect seems to be getting stronger. So even if we have things that work, whether its drugs or herbs right, the placebo effect can sort of be an added bonus because if you believe something is going to work, that can just enhance its ability to do it because a lot of stuff goes on with your subconscious mind and your body’s processing and all that.
On the flip side though, if you believe something won’t work, through the placebo effect basically you can cancel out the goodness of something, its actual effect in doing that. So if you’re skeptical about herbs when you take them, you may just be basically triggering your body to cancel out the effects of the herbs that they may have. Once again, it’s fine to be skeptical. However, while you’re taking herbs because obviously you’re going to take them because you want the benefit, set that skepticism aside and just be open to the possibilities that these things can really help for you. If you do that, you have a better chance of getting results. Let’s say even the herbs didn’t have an effect but you have this placebo effect going from them. If you get results, isn’t that worth it anyway?
Cloud: Right. In our culture, our society, people need to feel something to know it’s working. Maybe the shilajit is working on a cellular level, improving your mitochondrial efficiency. Are you going to feel that right away? If I don’t feel it in the first dose, in thirty minutes then this is junk. I’ve heard that before. I definitely think going into it, like you’re saying, with an open mind and not putting your mental attitude into it will definitely help.
Our father is one that I think he’s taken a lot of these things for us. He doesn’t believe in them and they never work for him. He doesn’t even feel the tongkat ali when he’s been on it for two weeks. Then I gave him something else. I give him actually a formula from Dr. Jay’s stuff and it was the first time he said he ever felt anything. So now, he’s starting, “Oh, maybe these herbs do work.” He was the case of “Oh, I felt this instantly so it is actually working.”
Logan: Once you notice the effects of something then that can help begin to transform the belief that these don’t do anything if they noticed it from that first time. So you bring up a couple of interesting points. One is, not every herb works as well for different people. There’s a whole lot of different issues that go into this. If one thing doesn’t seem to be working then try something else. If you don’t notice the effects of taking an herb, you can always try a much bigger dose than normal. A lot of times with that, you’ll be able to feel something right away. Let’s say with the shilajit, you’ll probably feel some energy from doing that if you take a bigger dose.
But sometimes also the best effects you’ll notice only after being on something for a few weeks or a few months. So you need to give it time to be really working and it can be subtle along that way. Day to day, you may not notice a difference but three months from now if you’re taking shilajit and you look back, maybe then with that comparison you’ll be able to tell the difference and how things are going. Sometimes, the best way to know something is working is to stop taking it and then at that point you’ll notice because once again you have a comparison.
The other day with our lion’s mane, for instance, I was taking that every morning pretty religiously and then one day I didn’t. I’m just speaking and the words are not just coming to me. I’m trying to use some word and not being able to find it. I noticed that effect pretty significantly just from the one day I didn’t have my lion’s mane.
Cloud: Right, and that’s why from the beginning we’ve been big proponents of people experimenting like you’re saying on the dosage, how much they take, when they take it and what other herbs they take it with. We did tons and tons of our own experimentation and we still do all the time. All three of us do different things with the different herbs. We all have our preferences and we find out what works best for us. That’s what we always tell our people. Play around with it a little. Find out what works best for you.
Logan: Because everyone is individual. Definitely, we’ve talked a little bit about constitutional theory like the doshas of Ayurveda. We can give you an idea of different herbs may interact with your body and what’s going to work better or worse for you but even with that, most people can’t right away, “Oh I’m definitely this dosha. I should work with these things.” You’re still going to have to experiment and find what’s useful and best for you.
Cloud: And sometimes maybe your results are not quantifiable like I have this much energy today, I’m at this level, I know exactly where I am and then the next day oh I’m below that. Well, is that measurable? You’ve got to look at things carefully. Some of these herbs, their actions are a lot more subtle than you realize what’s going on and if you’re not paying attention to everything, you may not see it.
Logan: I’d say most people have the awareness of a dead dog or something like that. They may be hit with a sledgehammer in order to feel something. The more you work with herbs, the more you tune in. There are various routes you can go about doing this but you can become more aware and feel the subtle influences of herbs.
I’ve heard people saying like these different herbs and Chinese medicines work in a different meridian. So actually being able to feel it enter into that meridian energy channel and what it’s doing there, you can certainly go very far with it and tune into that subtlety. But like I said, you’ve got to start somewhere so that sort of sledgehammer effect of maybe taking a large dose right away of some of the herbs that people generally feel much more than others, that could be a good way to get started.
Cloud: Then there’s the other side of it of the people that they’re believers in this stuff and they are very in tune with their body. They can feel the difference when they change what they eat. We give samples to those people and they’ll take the tiniest amount and they feel a significant difference versus before they had it. So it can definitely go both ways.
Logan: Absolutely. So I think we’ve gone a little over half an hour here. Any final words to wrap it up, Cloud?
Cloud: Yeah, take your shilajit every day.
Logan: Yeah. Just for the benefits, this is one that I’d really pretty much advice just about everyone to be on. I think it’s going to give you some great results. Yeah, definitely give it a shot and see how it works for you. I’d like to remind people, if you’re enjoying this podcast you can head on over to iTunes. Leave us a review. That would be very much appreciated. As always, we’d love to hear your feedback, whether it’s there or keep emailing into our site whenever. We love to hear you feedback on the herbs, how you like the information, the podcast and all that. Thank you very much and this is Logan and Cloud from the Vital Way signing off.[/spoiler]