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What Stops Herbs from Working?

May 22, 2015 by Logan Christopher 13 Comments

It’s funny. People generally think in all or nothing categories. Either the herbs work or they don’t work, and if that is the case for them, it must be true for ALL people.

But that’s not how the world works. Although herbs are considered a form of alternative medicine, this is true even in the case of the most recognized forms of Western medicine. Chemotherapy works for some getting rid of cancer but not for others. Surgery fixes some people’s bad knees and shoulders but doesn’t help others.

While this is a big topic, in this article I’d like to share a couple of the possible “stumbling points” in what could essentially stop you from getting the results you want.

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And even if you are getting results, chances are those could be even better by paying attention to some of these areas.

In no particular order, the reasons herbs may not be effective for you…

Table of Contents

  • 1 It’s Not What They Say It Is
  • 2 Hydration
  • 3 Sleep
  • 4 Different Level of Problem
  • 5 Messed Up Hormones
  • 6 Insufficient Vitamins
  • 7 Insufficient Minerals
  • 8 Reverse Placebo Effect
  • 9 Constitutional Types
  • 10 Give It Time
  • 11 Awareness
  • 12 How You Take the Herbs
  • 13 Insufficient Dose
  • 14 Gut Problems
  • 15 Pharmaceuticals
  • 16 Try Something Different
  • 17 Wrap Up

It’s Not What They Say It Is

Sadly, as recently has come more to light, many nutritional supplements aren’t what they claim to be. Either there is none of what is claimed inside, or it’s been cut with fillers even to the point where little of what is claimed is in there. In either case you’re not getting what you paid for. If this happens to be what is going on with what you’re taking than it would be no surprise that you’re not getting results.

Fortunately, at Lost Empire Herbs we do testing to ensure things are what they say they are. To prove it you can find the lab tests for ID verification (mostly through chromatography) in the Lab Results tab of any product page. That means you won’t have this problem with us…though you can at other places.

Lab Results Tab Tongkat Ali

The Lab Results Tab of Tongkat Ali Showing Identity Verification

Hydration

All the herbs in the world won’t help you if you problem stems from being chronically dehydrated. And many people are exactly that. In Your Body’s Many Cries for Water, Dr. Batmanghelidj said that “It is chronic dehydration that is the root cause of many of the diseases we confront in medicine at the present!”

He has essentially treated heartburn, headaches, pain, hypertension, arthritis, allergies, asthma, anxiety, depression, obesity and more simply with water.

Hydrate yourself. This means the right quantity of water, but often less thought of is the quality of water too. When it comes to herbs there action will almost always work better in a well hydrated body. (Watch where I get my water from here…)

Sleep

Water isn’t the only basic lifestyle issue at play here. Sleep is another component.

If your body is degenerating because you’re not sleeping enough, once again, while herbs may help, the best results will come from restoring proper and sufficient sleep quality and quantity.

Of course, many people have problems sleeping even if they allocate enough time, so using the right herbs to help support sleep would probably be the best use of herbs. Some that can help include ashwagandha tincture, albizia and ziziphus.

Different Level of Problem

When it comes to healing work I like to think about several different levels; physical, mental, emotional and spiritual. While these can’t truly be separated out, many problems seem to stem more from one area more so than another, so I find that looking at these different levels can be helpful.

In the Western Scientific view there tends to be a complete focus on the physical. What are the active constituents of this herb and what does it cause to happen in the body? Yet if your problem stems from an emotional issue, all the physical treatment in the world won’t fix it.

I’ve seen chronic pain that’s been there for years clear up completely with a single session, using something like EFT, by working on emotional issues.

The great news about herbs is that they don’t just work on the physical. While that tends to be the focus, with specific preparations and other ways of use (like communicating with the plants) you can get much more of the mental/emotional/spiritual healing work.

I know it sounds woo-woo, but it works!

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Messed Up Hormones

While we supply many herbs tailored towards hormonal support, unfortunately if your hormones are too out of whack, sometimes this can stop them from working. Often times it could be different hormones than the one you are focused on. Here’s an example.

Let’s say you’re a man or woman working to restore proper levels of the sex hormones. That’s great and for many it works. But if your cortisol is completely out of whack from over-work, lack of sleep, toxins, etc. it can be difficult to get those sex hormones working without first taking care of the bigger issue.

Insufficient Vitamins

Vitamins are critical micro-nutrients in the body that are used in so many different things. If you’re trying to correct one problem, but are deficient in a certain vitamin that plays its role in that specifically, an herb won’t help…that is unless that herb supplies that vitamin.

The good news is that herbs tend to supply lots of vitamins, but still if you’re not getting one or more that you need, that can limit your results.

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Insufficient Minerals

What is true of vitamins is just as true of minerals. As an example, zinc is used in the creation of testosterone. Without it, that means no testosterone. So even if you’re taking something like tongkat ali that triggers your body to produce more testosterone, and it may have some zinc in it, if you don’t have enough zinc, quite simply you won’t make enough.

Once again, certain herbs can be very good suppliers of minerals. And you may need to clean up your diet, eat particular superfoods for their nutrients (like oysters for zinc or brazil nuts for selenium), or do additional supplementation for best results.

Reverse Placebo Effect

We talked about the mental part of healing. This plays such a huge role that is often not thought about. And it can work both ways!

Looking into the research regarding the placebo effect is becomes pretty astounding what our body can do based on the belief of what happens. My favorite example of this is how placebo knee surgeries worked just as well as the real thing.

But the placebo effect also works in reverse. What this means is that by not believing in something, which might otherwise be efficacious, you can stop the effects from happening. Skepticism can be useful but it can also inhibit your results. (Besides there is recent research showing that cynics and skeptics are more likely to get dementia!)

By thinking that nothing is going to work for you, that you’re doomed with whatever health problem you have, you can often make this become a reality.

Each herb is going to have a real physiological effect. And it can also have a placebo effect on top of this.

Constitutional Types

There is one thing that is a big part of every ancient system of healing that we completely lack awareness of today. That is the idea of different types of people with different constitutions.

This is truly the bridge between the ideas that we’re all human and what works will work for everyone and the fact that everyone is individual so you have to find what works specifically for you.

All of our science neglects this idea. If turmeric is anti-inflammatory it works for everyone right? Wrong. This is why tongkat ali may be like a savior to some people and not work for others.

In Ayurveda these are the three doshas; vata, pitta, kapha. In Chinese medicine you have the five elements; water, wood, fire, earth, metal. Every person has differing amounts of these constitutional factors.

Knowing your constitution helps you to target the herbs (because they all correspond to these constitutions as well) to what will work for you better. We’ll have even more info on this subject in the future.

3 Doshas

Give It Time

Some herbs bring about their best effects over a period of time. It depends on the herb and it depends on the person.

Just because you take an herb once and you’re not fixed in whatever issue you have, doesn’t mean the herb isn’t working. Sometimes it can take months before real noticeable effects are seen.

Adaptogens are a great example of this. Although some people feel them right away the best results will come with at least a month of daily use.

This blog post goes into more detail about how long you should take herbs.

Awareness

The other issue, related to this, is that people can be very bad in the awareness department. Maybe the herb is working, and working great, and you just don’t notice the difference yourself.

Because of incremental improvement overtime it can be hard for you to see a difference, although it may be apparent to others.

One way of getting around this is to rate your symptoms on a scale of 0 to 10 and then do the same a month or two later. With this you’ll have a better way to compare what is going on.

This blog post details more of what to look for in feeling the effects of herbs.

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How You Take the Herbs

It’s not just about the herbs, but also about HOW you take them. We’ve provided a fair amount of ideas about this in our ebook How to Take Herbs which comes free with your first order.

Really this is a big part of it as it can change things up in a big way. Certain combinations can change how it effects your constitution or how the body absorbs and utilizes the herbs.

A very dry person wouldn’t want to take a powder and or pills and straight swallow them down. This is better done with a fair amount of liquid. A cold person would be best to take the herbs with a warm liquid. Oil can often help with absorption of nutrients too. And there is so much more to this subject that entire books are written on the subject. Tinctures are different than powders in delivery too.

Insufficient Dose

If you’re not seeing noticeable effects one way to change that, that often works, is to simply take more. Most herbs are generally safe so you can take much more than our recommended dosages. When you do that, often times you can then FEEL something happening.

A small dose may be below the threshold of awareness. A big dose can bump that over the threshold.

Of course, more isn’t always better. Many herbs have bell-shaped curves when it comes to dosing. Too little is too little. The right amount offers the best result. And for whatever reason, too much can also inhibit response.

Play around and experiment to find what works best for you.

This blog post goes deep on the variability of dosing herbs and what to look for.

Dosage One Dose

Gut Problems

Leaky gut syndrome is becoming more and more prevalent, largely because of food intolerances, like gluten, punching holes in our small intestine. Not to mention dysbiosis from overuse of antibiotics. If any part of our gut isn’t working as well as it should (and few people have flawless digestion) then this can limit the absorption of herbs.

Just think about it. If you take a bunch of herbs but your body can’t absorb or assimilate them, then they really can’t do much can they?

As mentioned previously different ways of taking herbs can help with this. Tinctures especially are one way of avoiding digestion as they can absorb right into the blood stream. On the other hand, herbs to help repair the gut would want to go through the digestive process.

Pharmaceuticals

Pharmaceutical drugs are powerful things. They often dramatically limit, stop or even reverse bodily processes. Although this is “aimed” at one thing, like let’s say cholesterol, the body is far too complex for only one thing to be effective. That’s were side effects occur.

And unfortunately, sometimes it appears that these drugs may render herbs inert in their effectiveness because of these blocked pathways.

Of course, this doesn’t mean you should stop taking drugs but it is something to keep in mind. If you’d like to get off pharmaceuticals, rather than being on them for the rest of your lifetime, talk to your doctor about how you might be able to do that.

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Try Something Different

Just because one herb didn’t work for you doesn’t mean that none of them well. Human beings generalize, and sometimes it’s too quickly. So just because one thing you took didn’t work one time, everything is useless? Beware of jumping to conclusions too quickly.

This could be because the herbs are constitutionally matched to you. Or perhaps a different extraction method works much better.

So if one herb or formula didn’t work for you try another from our selection.

Just some of our selection available…

Wrap Up

There could be other items added to this list. And each one could be greatly expanded. But I hope this has helped you to think of some ways that you can get better results for yourself.

Please use the comments below to add other ideas, ask questions, and post any other comments you’d like. We’d love to hear from you.

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  1. Ricardo Ramirex says

    December 7, 2018 at 10:43 pm

    Logan,
    Wich herbs are good to heal the gut, and are tolerated by a person with Small intestine bacteria overgrowth?

    I might have been exposed to toxins or heavy metals in the Gulf War, any recommendations

    I would appreciate any recommendations and save me years of research. I have already spent to many years suffering and researching. I have self diagnosed,tested,and treated myself.

    Thank you for your research,knowledge and dedication to empowering people to take charge of their health. I know the hard work.

    Semper fi Chris

    Reply
  2. Bob says

    August 23, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    Great article!
    I’d like to start with herbs but, I’m not sure if they would interact with my meds. I’d like to find out. Is there a chart somewhere? Thanks.

    Reply
  3. Leslie says

    August 23, 2018 at 4:09 pm

    T hanks Logan,all you said is right,i agree with you,but i would like to say modern man is so ignorant of the design of the body,that to ignore the designer is insanity.The Blood is a very huge topic(bio-markers/chemistry/electricity/hormones/structure/etc)Many times tests are done on the young people and the seniors are given the products.When a person is not well they want a remedy right now,they cannot return to their youth,they do not have the time to experiment,life is very short to weed out false info and what does not work,however,thanks for caring and addressing such a topic.

    Reply
  4. Bill Olsen says

    December 5, 2016 at 11:22 pm

    Hi, A great article as far as it goes but many people today are very low in Magnesium and sulphur as well as trace minerals and have high levels of heavy metals. Also liver and kidney toxins can interfere with herbal effects. Also checking your saliva ph first thing in the morning can help you assess you ph. Many people focus on acidosis but just as many people end up in hospital with alkalosis as acidosis. Either extreme will significantly reduce the ability to eliminate toxins. Lack of movement resulting in low cellular charge is another issue. If you have low cellular charge, herbs will not have nearly as much effect. Lastly, many people need much higher doses to see effects than are commonly recommended for combinations of all the reasons mentioned. Keep up the good work

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  5. Tommy says

    July 18, 2015 at 4:02 pm

    If herbs are not grown on healthy soils that has all of the proper nutrients they will not work as well as herbs grown in a nutrient rich environment. That includes proper harvesting and and handling. Correct attitudes and beliefs of the people taking care of the plants can also make a difference.

    Reply
    • Lloyd says

      December 6, 2016 at 5:31 pm

      Excellent point.

      Reply
  6. Jay August says

    May 22, 2015 at 8:01 pm

    That is absolutely great information to read, particularly about remembering to stay hydrated!

    Thanks again,
    Jay

    Reply
  7. jimmy parsons says

    May 22, 2015 at 11:59 pm

    Lot of good info.here.I purchased spartan, Phoenix, Hercules and pine pollen. Can they be mixed and taken together or that not a good idea?

    Reply
    • admin says

      May 24, 2015 at 12:35 am

      Hercules is specifically for before workouts. Many people like Spartan for the same reason too. I wouldn’t necessarily take all at once though. Maybe those two before workouts, Phoenix afterwards with some extra pine pollen. And Spartan and Phoenix maybe on non-workout days.

      Reply
  8. John says

    May 22, 2015 at 10:22 pm

    Great bit of information.

    I’ve been hearing (or reading) a lot lately about rotation of the herbs. Some even say not to use any particular one more often than once or twice per week. I have about 35 of them organized now into a weekly rotation of 5 per day. I would like to see some information on what are the best combinations for the best long term effectiveness.

    Reply
    • admin says

      May 24, 2015 at 12:36 am

      Sometimes people will work with one herb for a couple months, and just that herb, to really get to know it. Or you can switch up herbs every day. Both are applicable. We recommend experimenting to find what works best for you.

      Reply
  9. Chad says

    May 22, 2015 at 10:15 pm

    I think this was a wonderful idea Mr. Logan. These areas of ignorance of the herbal world should be addressed. Very well written.

    Reply
  10. Scott Truran says

    May 22, 2015 at 7:26 pm

    Never gave the placebo effect much thought. I always keep an open mind to things that might help my health. With Primary Progressive MS, modern medicine has failed. Have to create the best possible environment inside my body for healing. ☺

    Reply

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